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  • Acronym: IDL
  • Issues Count: 133
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Key Issue Reported Fixed Disposition Status
IDL4CPP11-24 cpp_mapping? IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-27 Use IDL::traits IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-26 Change enum mapping IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-25 Example not matching text IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL43-106 Definition of constructed types IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-105 Maximum size of a bitset IDL 4.2 open
IDL4CPP11-23 Operators missing IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-22 MyBitMaskBits should be _flags IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-21 Text has issue IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-20 Problems in code example IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-19 Typo biset IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-18 Using types which use @default/@default_literal IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL4CPP11-17 Destructor should be virtual IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL43-101 Using annotations for typedef allowed? IDL 4.2 open
IDL4CPP11-16 Definition of value_type IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 open
IDL43-102 May optional be applied to a typedef IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-46 extensibility underspecified IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-47 Mutable and changing annotations IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-48 any value of annotations underspecified IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-70 Restrict key element type for maps IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-77 bitmask/bitvalue scoping IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-73 bitfield identifiers IDL 4.2 open
IDL4CPP11-15 constexpr constructors missing IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-14 Mapping to std::shared_ptr allows to much IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-13 Don't require operator ==/!= IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-12 CORBA::CustomerMarshal typo IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL43-100 Spec should describe to which element types @optional should be possible IDL 4.2 open
IDL4CPP11-11 What is the default value of an annotated numeric type whose range does not include the value 0? IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 open
IDL4CPP11-9 CORBA or non CORBA usage results in non compatible exceptions code IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-8 std::shared_ptr should be passed by value IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-10 Use consistant initialization IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-6 range/min/max underspecified IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-7 Remove IDL to C++11 spec extensions IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-3 Add Example Transformation IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 open
IDL4CPP11-4 Using floating point types to instantiate pre C++20 templates IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 open
IDL4CPP11-2 Add mapping for C++20 modules IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CPP11-1 Specify how IDL maps compare their keys IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 open
IDL4CPP11-5 Implicit default and constructor IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL43-95 Identify the types that numeric annotations can be applied to IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-53 Clarify meaning of array and sequence annotations IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-80 No clarification when annotation is used at various levels IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-79 Ambiguous use of numeric annotation on a typedef IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-91 Setting Floating-point Literals to NaN and infinity not covered under the specification IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-90 Allow true/false as boolean values IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-94 Behavior of default union member not properly specified IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-93 @value annotation used for enum is ambiguously defined IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-50 optional should be a keyword, not an annotaton IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-92 The definition of annotation_body grammar allows typedef IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-89 Missing relationship between min/max/range/default IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-88 IDL 4.2 i.e. the version published as ISO/IEC 19516 is full of broken references IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-87 destructor/raise of exception IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-86 Error! Reference source not found. IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-85 Add support for binary constant default IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-84 bitset memory layout IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-83 Add multimap IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-82 Spec should define defaults for all basic types IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-81 Dead link IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-66 Add ruby as language IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-72 signed_tiny_int should just extend octet_type IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-24 inheritance of unions and enumerations IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-75 Typo: Missing units IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-74 bitset mapping IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-33 Need builtin annotations that can be used to document the IDL IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-71 formal_parameter_type not extended IDL 4.2 open
IDL4CSP11-10 Problem with member accessor IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL4CSP11-9 Spec should specify behaviour IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 open
IDL43-69 Additional details needed in definition of maps IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-35 Importing a name scope recursively imports all name scopes nested within it IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-25 Annotation @hashid should be added to 8.3.1 'Group of Annotations General Purpose' IDL 4.2 open
IDL4JAV11-3 Sequences are not concretized IDL4-Java 1.0a1 open
IDL43-4 Syntax and scoping when applying annotations requires clarification IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-32 Table formatting IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-21 Constants for Core Data Types IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-56 Clarify recursive/forwarded rules for maps IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-49 Add c++11 as language IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-54 Allow nested module definitions IDL 4.2 open
IDL4JAV11-20 Definition of CORBA specific Any (A.1.4 Any) needs to align with 7.3 Any IDL4-Java 1.0b2 open
IDL43-27 Specify where annotations can be applied IDL 4.2 open
IDL4JAV11-1 @java_mapping promote_integer_width does not mention octet IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4CSP11-7 The class shall implement the IEquatable interface, where T is the corresponding class name. IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 open
IDL4CSP11-8 Use of annotations as part of IDL example do not provide a clean example IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 open
IDL4CSP11-6 Use of anonymous array type in array section IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 open
IDL43-52 Remove the bifuration of basic and full inetrfaces IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-51 Behaviour when nested is not present should be standardized IDL 4.2 open
IDL4CSP11-5 Sections mapped to naming schemes complicates the document IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 open
IDL4CSP11-4 A canonical example for sequences is missing IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 open
IDL4CSP11-3 Basic types include extended types IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 open
IDL43-45 Missing hyperlinks for CORBA speficiations IDL 4.2 open
IDL4JAV11-19 Missing extended basic types section IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-18 Mapping to alternative identifier formats IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-17 Application of Non-Standard Annotations IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-16 Annotation usage IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-15 Anonymous types sections needs text IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-14 Annotations should not be used for examples in a canonical mapping IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-13 Union exmple uses octet which is not allowed as a discrimant IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-12 Table 7.2 IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL4JAV11-11 Document Review: Table 7.1 IDL4-Java 1.0 open
IDL43-44 Feature macros to guard building blocks IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-43 Ability to add annotations by reference IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-9 Missing bullet "Integers restricted to holding 8 bits of information" IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-42 Annotation for union discriminator name IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-41 Restrict bitshifts IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-40 Allow enumerator value to be set without using @value IDL 4.2 open
IDL4CSP11-2 Union implicit default IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 open
IDL43-39 Use of Omg.Types IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 open
IDL4CSP11-1 Partial classes cannot span assemblies IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 open
IDL43-38 Allow empty IDL modules IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-37 Explain how to handle when an annotation appears in attributes with multiple declarators IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-36 clarify forwarding rules related to structure inheritance IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-34 Need the concept of a "using namespace" directive to simplify IDL files IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-31 Rules for Qualified Names need to take into account other Building Blocks IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-30 current IDL4 grammar breaks backward compatibility with respect to short hand notations IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-29 References to a Template Module: Syntax doesn't match example IDL 4.1 open
IDL43-28 Extended structs that are both inheriting and empty IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-26 Some standardized annotations use keywords as identifiers IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-23 Incorrect rule number on connector_inherit_spec IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-22 Typos in 8.2.2 enumerated list IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL4JAV11-10 Bitset inheritance IDL4-Java 1.0b2 open
IDL4JAV11-8 Typo fixes IDL4-Java 1.0a1 open
IDL4JAV11-9 Typos and Inconsistencies IDL4-Java 1.0a1 open
IDL4JAV11-5 Provide strong abstraction for arrays IDL4-Java 1.0a1 open
IDL4JAV11-7 Anonymous types are a separate Building Block IDL4-Java 1.0a1 open
IDL4JAV11-6 Union mapping IDL4-Java 1.0a1 open
IDL4JAV11-4 Interfaces - Full should define a FooOperations interface IDL4-Java 1.0a1 open
IDL43-11 Unicode apostrophe in source code IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-10 Mapping int8/uint8 in absence of target language native support IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-12 Incorrect rule number on IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-3 Typo in title of 7.4.1.4.1 IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-5 Typo in Annex A: Consolidated IDL Grammar IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-8 Copy/paste problem at IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-7 Apparently incomplete phrase IDL 4.2b1 open
IDL43-2 Formatting error in title of 7.4.13.4 IDL 4.2 open
IDL43-1 Typo in section 7.4.1.4.4.4.3 Enumerations IDL 4.2 open

Issues Descriptions

cpp_mapping?

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The text talks about struct_mapping, but shouldn't the text refer to cpp_mapping and say that the default is STRUCT_WITH_PUBLIC_MEMBERS, the internal struct_mapping with the default is just an internal thing (maybe rename struct_mapping to just value), when I look at IDL4.2, it has in 8.3.1.2 the autoid annotation, there AutoidKind is just not mentioned and the user uses @autoid, and not @AutoidKind

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:08 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 10:31 GMT

Use IDL::traits

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    IDL to C++11 defines a set of IDL::traits, but this spec uses the old CORBA::traits, section A has to be updated/cleaned to use IDL::traits

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:52 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:57 GMT

Change enum mapping

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The proposed enum mapping makes it harder to migrate from C+03 to C11 or newer, why not map this to a class with a _flags enum as member (same as bitmask does). The _flags enum contains the enum elements as defined in IDL, this way user code can use AnEnum::zero independent whether C03 or C+11 is used

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:48 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:57 GMT

Example not matching text

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The example has the following operations for a_long (same issue happens with the others)

    void a_long(int32_t value)

    {...}
    int32_t& a_long() {...}

    int32_t a_long() const

    {...}

    a_long is a basic type, so according to the text it should have:

    <MemberType> <MemberName>()
    <MemberType> <MemberName>() const;

    Both return by value, but the example has one returning by reference.

    Also the setter for a_struct doesn't match the text, seems this chapter needs some review and tweaks

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:21 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:57 GMT

Definition of constructed types

  • Key: IDL43-106
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    Constructed types are types that are created by an IDL specification.

    All types are created by an IDL specification, this is not a characterization that distinguishes constructed types.

    I propose
         Constructed types are types that have members.

    This would provide distinction from other types.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 28 Oct 2024 05:17 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:53 GMT

Maximum size of a bitset

  • Key: IDL43-105
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec defines that a bitfield can be a maximum of 64bits, but it doesn't say anything about the maximum size of the bitset, can we create a bitset with 1000 fields of each 64bits? Is that legal, or is there some limit to the maximum size of a bitset

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 21 Oct 2024 12:47 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:50 GMT


MyBitMaskBits should be _flags

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The text says that the code should use a _flags enum, but the example usees MyBitMaskBits

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Tue, 8 Oct 2024 13:41 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:38 GMT

Text has issue

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The text says

    An implementation of the !=, &=, and ^= bitwise operators

    But that should use operator |= and not !=

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Tue, 8 Oct 2024 13:39 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:38 GMT

Problems in code example

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The struct MyBitMask as example code has the following buts:

    • After `flag1 = 0x01 <<` the 1 is missing
    • operator|= has an incorrect first implementation line, should be `_value |= other;`
    • operator&= has a wrong argument , should be `std::uint32_t other`
    • operator uint32_t() can be const
  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Tue, 8 Oct 2024 13:38 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:37 GMT

Typo biset

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    This section has:

    IDL biset types shall be mapped as defined in Clause 7.14.3.2 of this specification.

    Notice the typo, biset should be bitset

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Tue, 8 Oct 2024 13:22 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:37 GMT

Using types which use @default/@default_literal

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec is not clear when a type annotated with @default/@default_literal will really use these annotations

    For example when I have in IDL the following:

    @default(5) typedef long mylong;

    When I now use in C++

    mylong myvalue {};

    What would be the value of myvalue, would it be 5 (the default I specified), or will it be 0?

    Also when I have in IDL

    enum Color

    { GREEN, @default_literal RED, BLUE }

    ;

    And in C++ I have

    Color mycolor {};

    What is the value of mycolor, RED or GREEN?

    RTI support says these annotations are only used when the IDL type is used within a complex type (struct/union/exception), but if that is the case the IDL spec should mention this.

    Some other related questions/thinking points

    • What when using array/sequences/map of these types?
    • what about @range?
  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:48 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:36 GMT

Destructor should be virtual

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    As the class ValueFactoryBase has no base class the destructor should be virtual and not override, same error is made in more examples

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:32 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:37 GMT

Using annotations for typedef allowed?

  • Key: IDL43-101
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Some text for the annotations refers to element, but the introduction in 8.3.1 says "They may be applied on almost all kinds of elements", but what is an element. It looks for example logical that optional/value/min/max/unit/range can also be applied to a typedef, for example "@optional typedef boolean opt_bool1;". In a DDS world these annotations are mostly only used for types, but with CORBA/LwCCM adding them to a typedef could also mean that for example a optional is passed with a method call.

    The spec should be more precise whether applying annotations to a typedef is legal.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 9 Aug 2024 12:33 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 18:28 GMT

Definition of value_type

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The definition of value_type says `Defines type - Type to be used as return C++ type.`, but in what context is return handled. For example in the struct class mapping for type T a const and non-const accesor is defined. Shouldn't be value_type defined as `The template parameter T.`, just as A.1.1 does?

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b2 — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:25 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 14:03 GMT

May optional be applied to a typedef

  • Key: IDL43-102
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec is not clear where optional may be applied, I wanted to use it with a typedef, see the test below, but it seems DDS XTypes disallowed it but IDL4 does seem to allow it, it says "This annotation may be used to set optionality on any element that makes sense to be optional.", my example makes sense about it. The spec should be more precise where this annotation (and others) maybe used

    module Test {
    @optional
    typedef long OptLongFoo;
    struct Bar

    { OptLongFoo f; };
    struct Z
    { OptLongFoo f; }

    ;
    };

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 6 Sep 2024 13:00 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 13:59 GMT

extensibility underspecified

  • Key: IDL43-46
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    extensibility is heavily under specified in IDL4.2. It is listed as a general purpose annotation but it says nothing at the moment for the case appendable/mutable is specified and types are evolved. What are at that moment the rules for assignability/compatibility. Someone who just looks at IDL4 lacks a lot of required information

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 07:54 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:45 GMT

Mutable and changing annotations

  • Key: IDL43-47
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The specification is unclear of what the user can expect when using mutable and annotations like range, what when the old version of the type has a range of 1-10 and the new one range of 1-5. An old version is send with value 6, what does the receiver get? Very likely more annotations need to be extended in their description related to mutable

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 08:05 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:31 GMT

any value of annotations underspecified

  • Key: IDL43-48
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The specification just lists any as value for the min/max/default annotations, but that tells nothing about what is allowed as value, are for what about hex/octet values, floats, etc. Maybe make this more precise by referring to the value_expression rules `<const_expr>` as specified in 7.4.1.4.3 constants

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 08:18 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 19:39 GMT

Restrict key element type for maps

  • Key: IDL43-70
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Currently the key element type for maps is the same as the value element type, but that looks to be open, this allows for example a union, struct, reference, or other complex type as key type, all of them lack a comparison operator, very likely it is better to define a special map_key_type_spec just as we have for the union as switch_type_spec

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 21 Mar 2023 07:21 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 19:06 GMT

bitmask/bitvalue scoping

  • Key: IDL43-77
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec doesn't say anything about bitmask bit_value scoping. I think the spec currently allows

    bitmask MyBitMask

    { flag0, flag1 };
    bitmask MyBitMask2 { flag0, flag1 }

    ;

    This is problematic when a bitmask maps to an enum in C++. As a bitmask is pretty similar to an enum I do ask the following, in section 7.5.2 it says:

    Enumeration value names are introduced into the enclosing scope and then are treated like any other declaration in that scope.

    What about a bitvalue, shouldn't this also be done for a bitvalue (the members of a bitmask), that would allow a safe mapping to an enum in C++.

    The spec should be clear about where bitmasks are introduced, within the bitmask scope itself, or in the enclosing scope

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:31 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 16:11 GMT

bitfield identifiers

  • Key: IDL43-73
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec says for bitfield " list of identifiers (<identifier>*).", shouldn't this be 1 or 0 identifiers, what if the user specifies 4 identifiers, how to separate them, what is the meaning?

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:31 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 15:43 GMT

constexpr constructors missing

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    In user code I want to use constexpr for IDL fixed values, for example

    constexr F pi

    {3.142857}

    ;

    But in order for that to work a constexpr constructor has to be available, the spec should define that

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Wed, 4 Sep 2024 07:19 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 14:18 GMT

Mapping to std::shared_ptr allows to much

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    In the context of CORBA it is not legal to just compare object references with operator==/!= which are both provided by std:;shared_ptr. The fact that the local client proxy is different doesn't mean the called CORBA servant is different, in IDL to C+11 comparing two interfaces is illegal (see 6.7.2 of IDL to C+11). This specification should make it clear that omg::types::ref_type<T> should not be comparable

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Wed, 21 Aug 2024 07:15 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 14:14 GMT

Don't require operator ==/!=

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec says for structured types "A set of comparison operators, including at least "equal to" and "not equal to."", but that is not possible when the structure contains interfaces, valuetypes, valueboxes, abstract, all special types don't provide a operator==/!= so they can't be required when a structure contains any of these. This requirement has to be removed. CORBA doesn't provide equal for these special types because a local != doesn't mean that the references are not pointing to the same servant, object identity is not done through local pointers

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Mon, 19 Aug 2024 07:14 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 14:10 GMT

CORBA::CustomerMarshal typo

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    CORBA::CustomerMarshal should be CORBA::CustomMarshal

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Mon, 19 Aug 2024 07:09 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 14:09 GMT

Spec should describe to which element types @optional should be possible

  • Key: IDL43-100
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec doesn't describe exactly to which element types @optional should be possible, leaving it to the vendor implementation. The spec should describe to which element type this annotation (but also the others) should be applied, struct members sounds logical, but what about union members, attributes, exception members?

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:13 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:13 GMT

What is the default value of an annotated numeric type whose range does not include the value 0?

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    If the numeric type is annotated by range:

        @range(min=1, max = 10) long f1;
    

    or min

        @min(1) long f1;
    

    or max

        @max(-1) long f1;
    

    but does not specify a default, what is the default value since it cannot be 0.

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:54 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT

CORBA or non CORBA usage results in non compatible exceptions code

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec describes that with CORBA an invalid usage of union can result in a CORBA::BAD_PARAM exception, for bounded string/vector also a CORBA::BAD_PARAM, but when not using CORBA when IDL4CSP11-9 is resolved a different exception is thrown for an union (for vector it seems this still has to be added also). When a user now has appliation code that uses IDL defined data types with and without CORBA their exception code is different. In order to achieve portability of user code I think the spec should define a omg::bad_param alias type which maps to CORBA::BAD_PARAM or the selected std exception. That way user code can be written portable when the user has data types defined by IDL and wants to support use cases with and without CORBA

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Sun, 3 Mar 2024 07:23 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT


Use consistant initialization

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    the code examples use = and {} to initialize the constants, recommend to make this consistent by always using {}

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:55 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT

range/min/max underspecified

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    A few remarks on 7.17.3:

    • formatting of code in text is not done
    • what is the impact of range when applied to a typedef of a basic type on all argument passing rules when that typedef is passed with a function, stored in an union or exception?
    • how should min/max be implemented, shouldn't also omg::types::ranged be used?
    • what should be done when min/max but also range are used as annotation?
  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Wed, 24 Jan 2024 08:58 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT

Remove IDL to C++11 spec extensions

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    I find it not very maintainable to extend in this spec silently the IDL to C++11 language mapping. In the v1.7 revision I think all is already mapped, so I propose to remove D.3 completely from this spec

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Thu, 25 Jan 2024 12:53 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT

Add Example Transformation

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Dassault Systemes ( Mr. Daniel Brookshier)
  • Summary:

    Not sure where (not necessarily in the noted paragraph) should include a reference to an electronic mapping file as an example. Could also include test sample IDL and corresponding C++ output. This should probably be informational and could also be in an Annex. The key reason is to show the actual transformation as well as a test/verification of the mappings. Perhaps also include versions of tools/compiler used in which the transformations were validated. In addition unit tests could be referenced or included as informative content to the spec.

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:50 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT

Using floating point types to instantiate pre C++20 templates

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Prior to C++20, the following template cannot be instantiated:

    template <typename T, const T thingy>
    class MyTemplate {};

    MyTemplate<double, 5.0> x;

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 — Wed, 10 Jan 2024 19:33 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT


Specify how IDL maps compare their keys

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    Keys of maps can be any IDL type. How should the generated C++ code support key comparison of any type?

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0a1 — Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:53 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT

Implicit default and constructor

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Spec says:

    If the union has a default case, the default constructor shall initialize the discriminator, and the selected
    member field following the initialization rules described in Clause 7.2.4.3.1. If it does not, the default
    constructor shall initialize the union to the first discriminant value specified in the IDL definition.

    But when there is an implicit default member, that should be selected, for example, the example below (

      enum DataType
      {
        dtEmpty,
        dtLong,
        dtShort,
        dtString,
        dtPoint,
        dtTrack,
        dtGlobal
      };
    
      union Data switch (DataType)
        {
          case dtLong: long longData;
          case dtShort: short shortData;
          case dtString: string stringData;
          case dtPoint: string pointData;
          case dtTrack: string trackData;
          case dtGlobal: string globalData;
          // by default (implicit), empty union
        };
    
  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Tue, 16 Jan 2024 09:36 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37 GMT

Identify the types that numeric annotations can be applied to

  • Key: IDL43-95
  • Status: open  
  • Source: ZettaScale Technology ( Mr. Erik Hendriks)
  • Summary:

    There are currently a number of numeric annotations presented in the spec. These are annotations that impact the numerical behavior of a type (like its allowed ranges). Right now, the spec doesn't clearly specify where these annotations may be applied and where they may not be applied. It would be wise to extend the section that introduces these annotations with a paragraph that clearly lays out these restrictions.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:05 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:23 GMT

Clarify meaning of array and sequence annotations

  • Key: IDL43-53
  • Status: open  
  • Source: MIT/Lincoln Laboratory ( Mr. Daniel Herring)
  • Summary:

    It is unclear whether or how annotations such as "unit" and "range" apply to the values in an array or sequence. Other annotations may have similar ambiguity.

    Do they apply to each contained value, or do do they somehow apply to the aggregate value? What about multi-dimensional arrays or nested sequences?

    Does the range somehow apply to the sequence length, perhaps as a minimum?

    Where do they belong in the array or sequence definitions – before the keyword, before the type name, or somewhere else?

    Do the different locations accept different annotations? Do the annotations change meaning depending on location?

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:31 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:08 GMT

No clarification when annotation is used at various levels

  • Key: IDL43-80
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    There is nothing explained what the expected behavior is when an annotation is applied at multiple levels, for example see the changed example from 8.3.3, what is the range for Foo:bar2, is it min=10,max=20 or min=5,max=10

    @range (min=10, max=20)
    typedef long MyLong;
    ...
    struct Foo

    { @range (min=10, max=20) long bar1; // direct application @range (min=5, max=10) MyLong bar2; // indirect application trough type MyLong }

    ;

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Sun, 27 Aug 2023 08:19 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 22:11 GMT

Ambiguous use of numeric annotation on a typedef

  • Key: IDL43-79
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Section 8.3.3
    Has the normative example;

    @range (min=10, max=20)
    typedef long MyLong;

    It is unclear to me if the annotation applies to the typedef keyword or to the type in the typedef definition.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:23 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:49 GMT

Setting Floating-point Literals to NaN and infinity not covered under the specification

  • Key: IDL43-91
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Ryan Friedman ( Ryan Friedman)
  • Summary:

    As a OMG IDL user, I have messages that treat NaN or infinity as a significant value. I would like to specify this as a default for a field.

    Currently, the OMG IDL specification says that a floating point value must include an integer part. It does not mention how to set or use special floating point values.

    Per IEEE-754, there are a few types of NaN. It would be desirable for OMG DDS IDL to interpret NaN as a quiet NaN, which matches C++ and Python.

    In ROS-IDL, it would look like this:
    float32 float32_nan NaN
    float64 float64_nan nan

    In ROS 2, I proposed an implementation that sets NaN. In the IDL generator, it creates the following IDL file, which is not supposedly valid according to the standard:

    module rosidl_generator_tests {
    module msg {
    module NanValueConstant_Constants

    { const float FLOAT32_NAN = nan; const double FLOAT64_NAN = nan; }

    ;
    struct NanValueConstant

    { uint8 structure_needs_at_least_one_member; }

    ;
    };
    };

    Can the specification be amended to support NaN, +inf, and -inf? This is blocking implementation in ROS 2.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 5 Mar 2024 18:50 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:41 GMT

Allow true/false as boolean values

  • Key: IDL43-90
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Currently only TRUE or FALSE are allowed boolean values, but why not allow true and false (all lower case) as values

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:18 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:44 GMT

Behavior of default union member not properly specified

  • Key: IDL43-94
  • Status: open  
  • Source: ZettaScale Technology ( Mr. Erik Hendriks)
  • Summary:

    The spec clearly specifies that when a union has an explicit default member, then this member should be chosen in its default constructor. When this is not the case, it would pick the first available case that is listed for its first available member.
    However, it makes sense that if there is an implicit default member, then it is picked by the default constructor for the union.
    Finally, it should be stated that you cannot overrule in any way what member the default constructor of a union will pick by using the @default annotation on any specific member,

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:41 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:42 GMT

@value annotation used for enum is ambiguously defined

  • Key: IDL43-93
  • Status: open  
  • Source: ZettaScale Technology ( Mr. Erik Hendriks)
  • Summary:

    Should the IDL4 grammar specify that @value annotations, if specified for one enum field, MUST be used on all enum fields?
    Regardless of whether we make this restriction, the specification should clearly state what happens when one field is annotated, but the next one is not.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:00 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:31 GMT

optional should be a keyword, not an annotaton

  • Key: IDL43-50
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The annotation optional impacts the language mapping, for example in C it results in a pointer, with C++11 it could be a IDL::optional<>. The usage of an annotation is very weak in terms of semantics, it is much better to use a new optional keyword as optional heavily impacts the type presented to the programmer. Adding optional will break existing user code, it is not only something that is checked by a concrete middleware.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:03 GMT
  • Updated: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:23 GMT

The definition of annotation_body grammar allows typedef

  • Key: IDL43-92
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    The

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:58 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:06 GMT

Missing relationship between min/max/range/default

  • Key: IDL43-89
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec is silent about the relationship between min/max/range annotations and the default value. When I have an unsigned long and define min=10/max=20, is that legal without specifying a default value annotation? The default of an unsigned long is zero, so what should be generated in the code now as default? Or should the spec say that when min/max/range are used and the default value of the type is not in the range of those default should be specified by the user?

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:51 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 18:22 GMT

IDL 4.2 i.e. the version published as ISO/IEC 19516 is full of broken references

  • Key: IDL43-88
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Leonardo S.p.A ( Simon McQueen)
  • Summary:

    The IDL 4.2 page has a download link for the spec as published as an ISO: https://www.omg.org/spec/IDL/ISO/19516/PDF

    All (?? - verification left as an exercise but there's 926 instances) the internal document links look to be screwy.

    Search for e.g. "Reference source not found"

    An example (from page 102):

    Annex A
    Consolidated IDL Grammar
    This annex gathers all the rules from all the building blocks.
    Error! Reference source not found.:
    Error! Reference source not found. Error! Reference source not found.
    Error! Reference source not found. Error! Reference source not found.
    Error! Reference source not found. Error! Reference source not found.
    ... etc...

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:30 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:50 GMT

destructor/raise of exception

  • Key: IDL43-87
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    For all c++ code in this chapter the destructor should be override, not virtual

    The raise operation should be _raise, that way any derived user exception can have a raise member, similar to _name and _rep_id. Looks an oversight when adding the code from TAOX11, we use _raise always there

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 25 Oct 2023 08:18 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 15:58 GMT

Error! Reference source not found.

  • Key: IDL43-86
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Independent Security Consultant ( Henrik Johansson)
  • Summary:

    The data retrieval of described rules of constants entity during document compilation failed.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:42 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 16:23 GMT

Add support for binary constant default

  • Key: IDL43-85
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    With a bitset/bitfield I assume you can use @default to specify a default value, would be nice if a binary constant could be used, as with C++, a binary constant consists of a sequence of ‘0’ and ‘1’ digits, prefixed by ‘0b’ or ‘0B’ for example 0b101010

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 3 Oct 2023 06:25 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:31 GMT

bitset memory layout

  • Key: IDL43-84
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    IDL 4.2 says for bitset the following, but to our idea the IDL spec goes to far, how the data is organized in memory is something IDL can't enforce, probably not all programming languages provide such a direct way to control the memory layout. Middleware could control how a bitset is transferred on the wire, but I think IDL should not enforce the layout

    Bit sets are sequences of bits stored optimally and organized in concatenated addressable pieces called bit fields,
    themselves stored optimally. "Stored optimally" means that one bit uses just one bit in memory. "Concatenated" means
    that each bit field will be placed in memory just after its predecessor within the bit set (no alignment considerations
    apply).

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 2 Oct 2023 15:14 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:31 GMT

Add multimap

  • Key: IDL43-83
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    I assume that in a map keys may not be unique (this should be added to 7.4.13.4.3.1), in case that is a restriction for a map, I propose to add a multimap which allows keys to be duplicate.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 11 Sep 2023 06:16 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:55 GMT

Spec should define defaults for all basic types

  • Key: IDL43-82
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Now that with IDL4 the user can use @default to specify a specific default it would be good to also specify the default for all basic types when no @default is used. That way the user (or tool) can make a decision whether it must use @default in IDL or not

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 11:44 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:28 GMT


Add ruby as language

  • Key: IDL43-66
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Add ruby as language, there is a formal OMG language mapping for that, maybe just add all programming languages for which the OMG already has a formal language mapping

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 7 Jun 2022 06:34 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 23:23 GMT

signed_tiny_int should just extend octet_type

  • Key: IDL43-72
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    For int8 a new signed_type_int is defined, but I think it should just do the following so that anywhere where octet is used now int8 can be used

    <octet_type> ::+ "int8",

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:26 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 07:03 GMT

inheritance of unions and enumerations

  • Key: IDL43-24
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Dr. Gerardo Pardo-Castellote, Ph.D.)
  • Summary:

    IDL 4.2 syntax supports inheritance of only interfaces, valuetypes, and structures.

    There are multiple scenarios where it would be useful to inherit other types, specifically Unions and Enumerations.

    (1) Inheritance of unions

    This would be very useful in some specs where unions are automatically generated. For example unions are created interface definitions in DDS-RPC and derived interfaces would like to use unions that "inherit" the unions in the base interfaces.

    This would be useful when a "derived" union wants to add some more cases to the base union.

    The derived union would have to use the same discriminator type. All it can do is add new discriminator cases that do not conflict with the non-default discriminator in the base union.

    It can add a default case if not present in the base union.

    Proposed syntax would be:

    union DerivedUnion : BaseUnion {
        case 1 :
           Case1Type case1meber;
    ...
    };
    

    (2) Inheritance of enumerations

    This is useful to add literals to an existing enumeration without touching the original definition.

    The literals on the derived union would be constrained to not conflict the literals in the base class.

    Proposed syntax would be:

    enum DerivedEnum : BaseEnum {
        AdditionalLiteral1,
        ...
    };
    
  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:31 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 06:45 GMT

Typo: Missing units

  • Key: IDL43-75
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    For bitmask the spec says "By default, the size of a bit mask is 32", but what unit is 32, I assume the spec wants to say "By default, the size of a bit mask is 32 bits"

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:48 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 21:40 GMT

bitset mapping

  • Key: IDL43-74
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    All constructed types map to a C+11 class with accessors, but the new bitset mapping is an exception now, it delivers no accessor methods which gives a different API to the programmer. We propose to map to a class with accessors, similar like struct, or fastdds does in their implementation (see https://fast-dds.docs.eprosima.com/en/latest/fastddsgen/dataTypes/dataTypes.html#bitsets). Also the IDL inheritance is gone in C11, propose to use a derived class, so that in the C+11 code there is also an inheritance

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:59 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:53 GMT

Need builtin annotations that can be used to document the IDL

  • Key: IDL43-33
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Dr. Gerardo Pardo-Castellote, Ph.D.)
  • Summary:

    There is a general need to document the IDL. However the IDL language does not provide any standard way to do this. As a consequence people may be forced to define custom annotations which would preclude the use across projects and/or development of general tools that are documentation aware.

    To remediate this the suggestion is to add some built-in annotations that maybe used to document the IDL. For example the @documentation annotation below:

    @annotation documentation {
        string value default "TBD";
    };
    

    This annotation could applied to a type declaration or to a member / element, as in:

    @documentation("This documents the type Foo")
    struct Foo {
        @documentation("documentation for member m1")
        long m1;
        @documentation("documentation for member m2")
        long m2;
     };
    
    @documentation("This documents the type MyEnum")
    enum MyEnum {
        @documentation("documentation for literal L1")
        L1,
    
        @documentation("documentation for literal L2")
        L2
     };
    
  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 11 Apr 2019 18:17 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:33 GMT

formal_parameter_type not extended

  • Key: IDL43-71
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    When map/bitset/bitmask are added it looks formal_parameter_type is not extended to allow these new types to be used as templated module arguments.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 16:04 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 20:19 GMT

Problem with member accessor

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec gives:

    const <MemberType>& <MemberName>() const

    But for basic types/int this will result in a warning, for basic/enum it should be

    <MemberType> <MemberName>() const

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Tue, 4 Apr 2023 07:47 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 19:11 GMT

Spec should specify behaviour

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT Expertise BV ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    The spec says:

    A public constant accessor method with the name of the union member that returns a constant reference to
    its value:
    const <MemberType>& <MemberName>() const;
    Accessing an invalid union member may result in an undefined error.

    A language mapping should be precise and very clear to my idea, the user should know what happens if an invalid union member is accessed, this could happen in some cases, the spec should specify which exception will be thrown so that the programmer can react on this, saying it is undefined is not enough.

  • Reported: IDL4-CPP 1.0b1 — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 07:50 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 18:26 GMT

Additional details needed in definition of maps

  • Key: IDL43-69
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    Section 7.4.13.4.3.1 defines IDL Maps but doesn't specify:

    • Which types may be keys
    • If maps need to de-duplicate equivalent entries
    • If maps need to preserve order

    The most essential of these is the first. It's currently unrestricted but this causes problems for language mappings where some additional operations (like less-than or equal-to) must be defined for these types. In order to prevent different language mappings adding different (conflicting) restrictions, the IDL spec should define this.

    One approach to this would be that each building block should define how its types can (or can't) be used in maps. For example: everything in core data types is allowed; interfaces are not allowed; valuetypes are not allowed; etc.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:30 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 13:28 GMT

Importing a name scope recursively imports all name scopes nested within it

  • Key: IDL43-35
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    The section Imports contains

    The effects of an import statement are as follows:

    • [...]
    • Importing a name scope recursively imports all name scopes nested within it.

    This looks counter intuitive to me.

    Example:

    module commontypes {
       module nested1 {
          enum RGBColor { RED, GREEN, BLUE };
       }
       module nested2 {
          enum TrafficLight { READ, YELLOW, GREEN };
       }
    };
    

    What happens if another module does "import commontypes"?

    If, as the standard says, all name scopes nested within "commontypes" are recursively imported then this would lead to errors:
    The enum values RED and GREEN would be directly visible and would be in conflict with each other.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:47 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 15:26 GMT

Annotation @hashid should be added to 8.3.1 'Group of Annotations General Purpose'

  • Key: IDL43-25
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Dr. Gerardo Pardo-Castellote, Ph.D.)
  • Summary:

    The 'Group of Annotations General Purpose' includes the @autoid annotations which can optionally specify a HASH as in @autoid(HASH).

    To be useful this must be augmented with the @hashid("MyString") annotation that allows an ID to be explicitly assigned by computing the hash of a string using the same algorithm that @autoid(HASH) uses.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:53 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 21:26 GMT

Sequences are not concretized

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    ptc/19-07-02 section 7.2.4.2.1 defines the mapping of sequences of basic and non basic types in terms of Java interfaces.
    However, the classes implementing the interfaces are not defined.
    The implementation classes are required for actual programming.
    If it is intended that the user shall provide own implementations then this should be expressly stated.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0a1 — Mon, 23 Mar 2020 04:47 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 21:07 GMT

Syntax and scoping when applying annotations requires clarification

  • Key: IDL43-4
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    7.4.15.4.2 on p.101 contains the rule

    (225) <annotation_appl> ::= "@" <scoped_name> [ "(" <annotation_appl_params> ")" ]

    The nature of the EBNF notation leaves room for interpreting that between the @ and the <scoped_name> there could appear spaces, tabs, or even comments.

    On the other hand, 7.4.15.4.1 on p.100 contains:

    (220) <annotation_header> ::= "@annotation" <identifier>

    Here, it is clear that @annotation shall be treated as a single token without intermittent characters between @ and annotation.

    I propose adding a clarification in the explanations at the beginning of p.102 (following rule 227):

    Applying an annotation consists in prefixing the element under annotation with:

    • The annotation name ( <scoped_name> ) prefixed with the at symbol( @ ), also known as commercial at. There shall be no intermittent spaces, tabs, or comments between @ and <scoped_name>.

    The last sentence is my proposed addition.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:03 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:16 GMT

Table formatting

  • Key: IDL43-32
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Table 7-13 (Integer types) should have a little bit wider column 1 and the font size "See Building Block Extended Data" should match the other font in this table

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 1 Mar 2019 10:07 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 20:54 GMT

Constants for Core Data Types

  • Key: IDL43-21
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    Extend the grammar for Constants to allow constants for all Core Data Types that are currently not allowed:

    • sequence
    • structure
    • union
    • array
  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 22:10 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 20:13 GMT
  • Attachments:

Clarify recursive/forwarded rules for maps

  • Key: IDL43-56
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    Section 7.4.1.4.4.4.4 Constructed Recursive Types and Forward Declarations (in the Core Data Types BB) has special semantic rules for sequences. The intent of Maps (in the Extended Data Types BB) seems to be that maps should have these same semantic rules.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 3 Jun 2022 19:49 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 19:49 GMT

Add c++11 as language

  • Key: IDL43-49
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    There are a lot of more possibilities to be used with C++11 compared to C++, there is a specific OMG language mapping for C++11, so we would like to propose to add c++11 as defined value

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 08:41 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 19:44 GMT

Allow nested module definitions

  • Key: IDL43-54
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Currently when we want to declare a type in a deeply nested module we have to start with all higher level modules, for example

    module A {
    module B {
    module C

    { struct Foo; // Forward declaration typedef sequence<Foo> FooSeq; }
    }
    }

    It would be much easier that we can do the following (based on the C++17 namespace changes also allowing that for namespaces)

    module A::B::C { struct Foo; // Forward declaration typedef sequence<Foo> FooSeq; }
  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 28 Oct 2021 11:10 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:53 GMT

Definition of CORBA specific Any (A.1.4 Any) needs to align with 7.3 Any

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Leonardo S.p.A ( Simon McQueen)
  • Summary:

    7.3 Any says:

    "The IDL any type shall be mapped to org.omg.type.Any type."

    A.1.4 Any says:

    "The IDL type any maps to a public class named org.omg.CORBA.Any with the following definition

    package org.omg.CORBA;
    public class Any {
    ..."

    Suggested solution:

    Replace class declaration with:

    "package org.omg.CORBA;
    public class Any implements org.omg.type.Any {
    ..."

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0b2 — Thu, 14 Oct 2021 11:04 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 12:27 GMT

Specify where annotations can be applied

  • Key: IDL43-27
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    IDL 4.0 contained specific grammar rules for where annotations can be applied. Issue IDL41-9 revised these rules and left the spec with the general statement that (7.4.15.4.2): "An annotation may be applied to any IDL constructs or sub-constructs."

    This is problematic for the following reasons:

    • The phrase "under annotation" is used in multiple places in the spec without it being defined
    • Tool implementors using a grammar based on the one in the spec need to make their own enhanced grammar to include <annotation_appl>, which undermines the usefulness of having a grammar in the spec
    • Documentation of specific annotations (whether standardized in IDL, standardized in other OMG documents such as XTYPES, or non-standard) has no systemic way of describing where the annotation should be used
    • Users have little assurance that their IDL will be understood by all conforming tools, even when using standardized annotations
  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:43 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:32 GMT

@java_mapping promote_integer_width does not mention octet

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    IDL 4.2 section 7.4.1.4.3 Constants consistency rules on page 32 contains

    • An octet constant can be defined using an integer literal or an integer constant expression but values outside the range 0…255 shall be treated as an error.

    ptc/20-05-17 section 7.2.4.1.6 maps IDL octet to Java byte.
    For mapping IDL const octet values 128 to 255 to Java, it should be permissible to apply promote_integer_width to octet.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Fri, 10 Jul 2020 08:28 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:42 GMT

The class shall implement the IEquatable interface, where T is the corresponding class name.

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    This should be changed to a "may" or a "could". Shall seems overly prescriptive.

    How could a compliant implementation of Equals<T> be distinguished from Equals(Object) from the callers/users perspective?

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:22 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 15:00 GMT

Use of annotations as part of IDL example do not provide a clean example

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    The annotations should be covered in a separate section of the document and NOT be part of a clean, canonical example.

    Suggest:
    // IDL
    enum E

    {x, y, z}

    ;

    // C#
    public enum E

    { x, y, z }

    ;

    Also should enums inherit uint?

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:28 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 15:00 GMT

Use of anonymous array type in array section

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Anonymous types should be moved to their own section

    Suggest:

    //IDL
    typedef long myLongArray[2][3];

    // C# example

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:32 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 15:00 GMT

Remove the bifuration of basic and full inetrfaces

  • Key: IDL43-52
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Since IDL is a specification language why have an IDL interface that cannot define data types it wishes to encapsulate and use as parameters for methods and attribute types? It looks like someone had a programming language in mind. I guess in the end the reason I think basic interfaces are a bad idea is that they can only be identified heuristically. The absence of contained types is a poor indicator of the IDL authors intent regarding whether the interface is basic or not.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:55 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:55 GMT

Behaviour when nested is not present should be standardized

  • Key: IDL43-51
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Currently the specification says: Note – The default value (TRUE) is significant when the annotation is present (this means that using the compact form @nested will set the element as nested, which is what is expected intuitively). It does not mean that by default (i.e.,when no annotation is present) an element is nested.

    The case when no nested is present should be specified, it should be the same as TRUE or FALSE and not left open. We observed that different DDS vendors take different decisions making portability of user IDL which uses partly @nested broken. Some vendors assume default nested TRUE, others FALSE which in practice means when the user wants portable IDL he has to specify it which each IDL type.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:18 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:33 GMT

Sections mapped to naming schemes complicates the document

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Suggestion is to have one section or appendix where possible naming mappings could be covered.

    Change the IDL example naming to match the C# community expectations if that makes it easier to specify

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:18 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:22 GMT

A canonical example for sequences is missing

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Beside basic types no other canonical example is included. I suggest removing the basic types and having one example.

    // IDL
    struct foo

    {...};
    typedef sequence<foo> fooSeq;

    // C#
    class fooSeq : IDL:ISequences<foo> {...}

    ;

    Something like this.

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.0 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:13 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:22 GMT

Basic types include extended types

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Types such as sbyte and int32 are included in this section and should not be.

    These types should be moved to the extended types section.

    The section for these types is missing from the document.

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:09 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:21 GMT

Missing hyperlinks for CORBA speficiations

  • Key: IDL43-45
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    For the CORBA specifications as part of the scope chapter there are no hyperlinks, these should be added

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 07:40 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:25 GMT

Missing extended basic types section

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    This building block section is missing (e.g. sbyte).

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:24 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:24 GMT

Mapping to alternative identifier formats

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    It seems every section has this deviation of alternative identifier mappings. I find that it maps the document more difficult to read. The document at large should provide canonical text and examples. These alternatives should be placed in a section that caters to those alternatives with easy links to this section elsewhere in the document.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:23 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:23 GMT

Application of Non-Standard Annotations

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    I could not find a place that discussed what is expected if an IDL compiler encounters an annotation that it can parse but does not understand.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:17 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:17 GMT

Annotation usage

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    The section on annotations should contain examples of how to use the various standard annotations.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:14 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:14 GMT

Anonymous types sections needs text

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    This section needs to be filled out with examples of anonymous IDL types.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:12 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:12 GMT

Annotations should not be used for examples in a canonical mapping

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    The example uses annotation to define the type. The mapping should be clean/pure without annotations. The annotation should be moved to the sections on annotations.
    // IDL
    enum AnEnum

    { X, Y }

    ;

    // Java
    public enum AnEnum {
    X,
    Y;
    private int value;
    private AnEnum(int value)

    { this.value = value; }

    public int getValue()

    { return value; }

    public static AnEnum valueOf(int v)

    { // return X, Y, or raise java.lang.RuntimeException }

    7.17 Standardized Annotations
    }

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:09 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:09 GMT

Union exmple uses octet which is not allowed as a discrimant

  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Same as the description

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:07 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:07 GMT

Table 7.2

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Ensure the correct separation of building block basic types (e.g. sbye)

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:04 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:04 GMT

Document Review: Table 7.1

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    There needs to be a section on IDL interfaces being mapped to Java 8 interfaces which provide the capability to be a proper container. This removes the need for the old fooPackage id foo were defined in an IDL interface named foo.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0 — Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:02 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:02 GMT

Feature macros to guard building blocks

  • Key: IDL43-44
  • Status: open  
  • Source: MIT/Lincoln Laboratory ( Mr. Daniel Herring)
  • Summary:

    Now that IDL is modular with building blocks, IDL authors need a way of guarding IDL files so they are compatible with tools that implement different subsets of the building blocks. See discussion in IDL43-21 for a motivating example.

    See C++ feature test macros for a possible implementation pattern.
    https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/feature_test

    Another option is to have an "IDL_VERSION" macro that can be used as a pre-processor condition.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:14 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:26 GMT

Ability to add annotations by reference

  • Key: IDL43-43
  • Status: open  
  • Source: MIT/Lincoln Laboratory ( Mr. Daniel Herring)
  • Summary:

    At present, annotation syntax must be placed in the IDL file, usually right before or after the syntax being annotated.

    This works very well for annotations that define shared interface constraints. It does not work well for annotations that control internal implementation details, such as the selection of an API option. These internal details should be separated from the shared interface and so do not belong in the shared IDL file.

    This proposal is to add a new syntax for annotating IDL structures. The basic idea is to define an annotation that takes two parameters, a "place" in the IDL and an annotation, and has the effect of inserting the annotation at the given place. For example @insert(Foo.x, @some(value)) would be equivalent to placing @some(value) by the definition of Foo.x.

    With this mechanism, end users could create a custom IDL that includes the shared IDL and then adds the custom annotations.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:56 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:56 GMT

Missing bullet "Integers restricted to holding 8 bits of information"

  • Key: IDL43-9
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    7.4.13.4 "Explanations and Semantics" gives a synoptic list of the complements,

    Those complements are:

    • Additions to structure definition in order to support single inheritance and void content (no members).
    • Ability to discriminate a union with other types (wide char and octet).
    • An additional template type (maps).
    • Additional constructed types (bitsets and bitmasks).

    The complement "Integers restricted to holding 8 bits of information" (7.4.13.4.4) should be added there.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Sun, 4 Feb 2018 13:38 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 19:41 GMT

Annotation for union discriminator name

  • Key: IDL43-42
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    Predecessor: CPP1116-3

    For mapping the switch of unions, the language mappings choose different fixed names.
    It would be desirable to permit names that reflect the user's application domain.
    Example:

      enum environment_t { air, water, land };
    
      @switchname("environment")
      union env_info_t switch (environment_t) {
        case air:
          air_info_t air_info;
        case water:
          [...]
      };
    

    The @switchname annotation would cause the discriminator to be mapped using the given name.

    This may replace the name chosen by the language mapping (such as in the Ada mapping), or it may supplement the mapping chosen name (such as in the C++ mapping), depending on the nature of the mapped union.

    The provided name may not overlap with an enum value given in a case and it may also not overlap with a branch member name.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Sat, 1 May 2021 16:43 GMT
  • Updated: Sun, 23 May 2021 10:32 GMT

Restrict bitshifts

  • Key: IDL43-41
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    Currently the spec says:

    The << binary operator indicates that the value of the left operand shall be shifted left the number of bits specified by the right operand, with 0 fill for the vacated bits. The right operand shall be in the range 0 <= right operand < 64.•The >> binary operator indicates that the value of the left operand shall be shifted right the number of bits specified by the right operand, with 0 fill for the vacated bits. The right operand shall be in the range 0 <= right operand < 64

    But this should be more restricted, the range should be dependent on the number of bits of the underlying type, when it is for example a 32bit long, the operand should be in the range of 0 <= 32

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Mon, 10 May 2021 10:21 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 11 May 2021 13:54 GMT

Allow enumerator value to be set without using @value

  • Key: IDL43-40
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    IDL 4.2 allows the @value on an enum to set a specific value for example

    enum Test_E

    { @value(8) TEST_NO, @value(10) TEST_YES }

    ;

    It would be more clear and logical when IDL would allow

    enum Test_E

    { TEST_NO = 8, TEST_YES = 10 }

    ;

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 13 Apr 2021 06:21 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:56 GMT

Union implicit default

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    The section that describes the default value does not include a discussion
    of what to do when a default is not present. In this case a method called _default or
    __default should be defined to set the discriminant to a non-switched field value.
    This should be fixed before December.

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 13:57 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 15:55 GMT

Use of Omg.Types

  • Key: IDL43-39
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    The use of the Omg.Types name should be changed to OMG.Types.

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 — Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:40 GMT
  • Updated: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:40 GMT

Partial classes cannot span assemblies

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Every scope containing a constant declaration shall contain a public static partial class.

    The "public static partial class" is inconsistent with the examples in 7.2.3.1 above.

    The use of "partial" is suspect and cannot span assemblies. It may be useful for forward interface declarations though whose definition appears in another IDL file.

  • Reported: IDL4-CSHARP 1.1b1 — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 13:22 GMT
  • Updated: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 13:47 GMT

Allow empty IDL modules

  • Key: IDL43-38
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Remedy IT ( Johnny Willemsen)
  • Summary:

    At the moment model generated IDL files are used it could happen that in a certain configuration setting an empty IDL module appears in an IDL file or when doing some prototyping the users uses an empty IDL file. Currently seciton 7.4.1.4.2 of the IDL specification requires an IDL module to have at least 1 definition. We propose to more relax this, to allow an empty IDL module.

    Rule 3 should be changed to

    <module_dcl> ::= "module" <identifier> "

    {" <definition>* "}

    " A module

    And in the text

    A list of at least one definition (<definition>+) enclosed within braces ({}). Those definitions form the module body.

    Could be changed to

    A list of zero or more definitions (<definition>*) enclosed within braces ({}). Those definitions form the module body

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 09:39 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:56 GMT

Explain how to handle when an annotation appears in attributes with multiple declarators

  • Key: IDL43-37
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Dr. Gerardo Pardo-Castellote, Ph.D.)
  • Summary:

    It is possible to put an annotation on an attribute with multiple declarators, like this:

    struct Foo {
      @key long x, y;
    };
    

    What is the effect of this? Does the annotation apply to both declarators? In that case, how do you interpret the following:

    struct Foo {
      @fieldid(0x01000) long x, y;
    };
    

    The spec should say how to handle this case.

    Proposal - annotation applies to all declared members. In some cases this causes an error (same ID on 2 members). In other cases, tools could decide to issue warnings.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 8 Dec 2020 16:09 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:54 GMT

clarify forwarding rules related to structure inheritance

  • Key: IDL43-36
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Mr. Dave Stringer)
  • Summary:

    Structure inheritance is described by rules (45) and (48), page 27. The constraints on using forward-declared structures are given in section 7.4.1.4.4.4.4, page 40. For clarity, it would be better if this section made explicit the prohibited uses of forward declarations. This is done for value types in section 7.4.5.4.2 on page 57, "It is illegal to inherit from from a forward-declared value type not previously defined". Though this is a clarification it has been shown to be needed as this illegal use for forward-declared structures has occurred in external (to OMG) specifications that use IDL.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:56 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:51 GMT

Need the concept of a "using namespace" directive to simplify IDL files

  • Key: IDL43-34
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Dr. Gerardo Pardo-Castellote, Ph.D.)
  • Summary:

    Programming languages that have the concept of modules/namespaces also include the concept of "using" a namespace type such that one can ommit the explicit reference to the 'used' namespace.

    The following is an example for C++:

    Assume the declaration:

    namespace MyNamespace
    {
        class MyClass
        {
        public:
            void my_operation() {}
        };
        void MyFunction1(MyClass) {}
    }
    

    Normally these types need to be accessed using their fully qualified names:

    MyNamespace::MyClass obj;
    obj.my_operation();
    MyNamespace::MyFunction1(obj);
    

    This can be cumbersome when having to reference a lot of types in the same namespace, specially for deep nested namespaces.

    The C++ using declaration can bring the name space or individual types into scope simplifying the coding as in:

    using MyNamespace::MyClass;
    MyClass obj;
    obj.my_operation();
    MyFunction1(obj);
    

    Or alternatively bringing every type in the name space into the scope:

    using namespace MyNamespace;
    MyClass obj;
    obj.my_operation();
    MyFunction1(obj);
    

    Java and C# provide similar facilities:
    In Java the "import" keyword is used to import packages or types into the scope. The syntax is:

    import package.name.ClassName;   // To import a certain class only
    import package.name.*;
    

    In C# the "using" keyword is used to import namespaces or types into the scope. The syntax is:

    using  MyNamespaceName.MyClassName;   // To import a certain class only
    using MyNamespaceName;
    

    This issue request that a similar facility is added to IDL

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 23 Jun 2020 03:14 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:46 GMT

Rules for Qualified Names need to take into account other Building Blocks

  • Key: IDL43-31
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    This was originally reported as https://issues.omg.org/browse/CORBA34-1

    In 7.5.1, the 3rd bullet point lists "interface, struct, union, exception." Instead the same language from 7.5.2 ("The following kinds of definitions...") should be in effect.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 23:31 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:31 GMT

current IDL4 grammar breaks backward compatibility with respect to short hand notations

  • Key: IDL43-30
  • Status: open  
  • Source: ZettaScale Technology ( Mr. Erik Hendriks)
  • Summary:

    In section 7.4.4.4.2 it is explained that an annotation may be used in a shortened form in the following conditions:

    • There is no member or only one member with a default value.
      • In that it is allowed to apply the annotation by using just the annotation name.
    • There is only one member.
      • In that case you may apply the name of the annotation and the value of its member, without explicitly mentioning the member name and the equals sign.

    However, the second bullet may break backward compatibility when annotations get extended with additional members in future spec releases. Consider the following example:

    @bit_bound(32)
    bitmask DataRepresentationMask {
       @position(0) XCDR, 
       @position(1) XML,
       @posiiton(2) XCDR2
    }
    
    @annotation data_representation {
        DataRepresentationKind allowed_kinds;
    };
    

    Now to annotate an IDL type to support only the XCDR2 annotation, I can apply a shortened annotation like this:

    @data_representation(XCDR | XCDR2)
    struct Foo {
       long my_long;
    };
    

    Now suppose in a future version of the spec, we extend the @data_representation annotation with an additional field to specify the supported endianness, like this:

    enum EndiannessKind {
        BIG_ENDIAN,
        LITTLE_ENDIAN,
        NATIVE_PLATFORM
    };
    
    @annotation data_representation {
        DataRepresentationKind allowed_kinds;
        EndiannessKind endianness;
    };
    

    In this case, the addition of the new member suddenly invalidates existing IDL files that use the shorthand notation.

    What I want to propose is to allow the shorthand notation to be used for implicitly referring to the first available member. That is fully compatible with the current rule, but will also still apply when new members are added afterwards.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:31 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:31 GMT

References to a Template Module: Syntax doesn't match example

  • Key: IDL43-29
  • Status: open   Implementation work Blocked
  • Source: Honeywell ( Steven Hickman)
  • Summary:

    The example for 'References to a Template Module' contains the line:
    alias MyTemplModule2<S1, S2, m> MyTemplModule;

    According to rule 193, 'MyTemplModule2' should be a scoped_name that refers to a previously defined Template Module. There is nothing else (successfully) defined as 'MyTemplModule2'. I think this line should be:

    alias MyTemplModule<S1, S2, m> MyTemplModule2;

  • Reported: IDL 4.1 — Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:48 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:29 GMT

Extended structs that are both inheriting and empty

  • Key: IDL43-28
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    The grammar rule 195 (for struct_def) indicates that a structure may either inherit from a base or may be empty, but not both. The intent based on the text around the rule seems to be to allow structs that are both empty and inheriting.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 22:20 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:28 GMT

Some standardized annotations use keywords as identifiers

  • Key: IDL43-26
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    8.3.3.1 "@default" and 8.3.6.2 "@oneway" specify standardized annotations that a user is not allowed to make use of because grammar rule 225 (in 7.4.15.4.2) states that a <scoped_name> is used to identify the applied annotation. From rule 4, a <scoped_name> is built out of <identifiers> which can't be keywords (see 7.2.1, 7.2.3, 7.2.4).

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Wed, 5 Dec 2018 00:00 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:24 GMT

Incorrect rule number on connector_inherit_spec

  • Key: IDL43-23
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    Section 7.4.11.4.3 on page 85 contains:

    (181) <connector_inherit_spec> ::= ":" <scoped_name>
    

    The rule number should be 182.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:26 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:07 GMT

Typos in 8.2.2 enumerated list

  • Key: IDL43-22
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    Page 112 top continues the bullet list started on p.111 bottom:

    • May precise on which elements the annotation is valid in that specific context. That list may be only a subset of all the possible ones.

    Replace "precise" by a verb, e.g. specify, detail, elaborate, or expound.

    • Shall indicate the default behavior [...]. This is because the later values are intended to be the most logical values when the annotation is present.

    "later" -> latter

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 14:36 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:07 GMT

Bitset inheritance

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Object Computing, Inc. - OCI ( Mr. Adam Mitz)
  • Summary:

    How are bitsets that use inheritance mapped?

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0b2 — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:02 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:05 GMT

Typo fixes

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    In section 7.2.4.2.1.1 on page 13 top of page after end of fixed font Java code:

    Where:
    • <IntarfaceName> is the interface name indicated in Table 7.4.

    <IntarfaceName> should be <InterfaceName>

    In Clause 7.2.4.2.1.2, Sequence of non Basic Types, the text describing when to throw an exception is somewhat repetitive.

    In Clause 7.2.4.3.2 Unions, the requirement for implementing java.io.Serializable is repeated.

    In section 7.2.4.3.2 on page 16 paragraph before the union U1 example:

    [...] The first modifier method shall
    take no arguments, return void, and setsthe discriminant to the first available default value starting from a 0 index of the
    discriminant type.

    setsthe should be set the.

    In section 8.1.3 table 8.2 column "IDL Construct", repeated typo:
    Accesor should be Accessor.
    In particular, on page 32:

    Structure Member Name in
    Accesor/Modifier Methods

    Union Member Name in
    Accesor/Modifier Methods

    and on page 33:

    Interface Attribute Name in
    Accesor/Modifier Methods

    Exception Member Name in
    Accesor/Modifier Methods

    Bitfield Name in Bitset
    Accesor/Modifier Methods

    Throughout the document URIs starting with "http://" should start with "https://" instead.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0a1 — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:49 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:04 GMT

Typos and Inconsistencies

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Mr. Fernando Garcia-Aranda)
  • Summary:

    The revised submission contains a number of typos and inconsistencies that should be fixed:

    • In Clause 7.2.4.2.1.1, Sequence of Basic Types, IntarfaceName should be InterfaceName.
    • In Clause 7.2.4.2.1.2, Sequence of non Basic Types, the text describing when to throw an exception is somewhat repetitive.
    • In Clause 7.2.4.3.2 Unions, the requirement for implementing java.io.Serializable is repeated.
  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0a1 — Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:43 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:04 GMT

Provide strong abstraction for arrays

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    The ptc/19-07-02 section 7.2.4.4 proposes a weak mapping for IDL arrays in that they are mapped directly to Java arrays.
    This means that the fixed size nature of IDL arrays cannot be enforced at the location of usage (e.g. index checking and handling of variable size operations of java.util.List).

    On the other hand, 7.2.4.2.1.1 does define an abstraction for "Sequence of Basic Types", see Table 7.4 where e.g. sequence<boolean> is mapped to the interface BooleanSeq.
    A similar mapping could be defined for IDL arrays.

    Example:

      // IDL
      enum Color { RED, GREEN, BLUE };
    
      typedef Color ColorArray[3];
    

    could be mapped to

      public enum Color {
        // [...]
      }
    
      public class ColorArray implements org.omg.type.Array<Color> {
        public ColorArray() {
          elementData = new Color[3];   // initialize private member
        }
        // [...] most of the operations can be implemented in the superclass
      }
    

    The generic abstract class org.omg.type.Array would provide getter, setter, and other methods. It could also throw an exception on use of java.util.List operations that undermine the fixed size. I can provide a demo implementation of the class if desired.

    If it is desired to maintain the possibility of using plain Java arrays then the mapping could be made switchable via an annotation.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0a1 — Mon, 23 Mar 2020 05:24 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:04 GMT
  • Attachments:

Anonymous types are a separate Building Block

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    Examples given throughout ptc/19-07-02 make indiscriminate use of anonymous types; see

    • 7.2.4.2.1.2 struct MyType
    • 7.2.4.4 struct S2
    • 7.2.4.6 struct MyType
    • 7.14.3.1 struct S4

    For IDL compatibility with other mappings that do not support anonymous types (see e.g. C++11 mapping version 1.4 stion 6.2), the examples should preferably use typedefs.
    Further, it should be mentioned that anonymous types can incur portability problems when used with other language mappings.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0a1 — Mon, 23 Mar 2020 05:01 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:04 GMT

Union mapping

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Objective Interface Systems ( Mr. Chuck Abbott)
  • Summary:

    Something I noticed while looking at the union mapping for CORBA. Why is it that the IDL4 mapping uses two underscores prepended to the default method (e.g. __default v.s. _default)?

    If there is no technical reason for it I think the single underscore is preferred.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0a1 — Wed, 6 May 2020 21:07 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:04 GMT

Interfaces - Full should define a FooOperations interface

  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Mr. Fernando Garcia-Aranda)
  • Summary:

    Interfaces - Full should define a FooOperations interface like we have done in the IDL to C# Language Mapping.

    Also, public abstract void op1(S sIn); should be changed to void op1(S sIn);.

  • Reported: IDL4-Java 1.0a1 — Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:57 GMT
  • Updated: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:04 GMT

Unicode apostrophe in source code

  • Key: IDL43-11
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    7.2.6.2.1 on page 23 contains:

    A character literal is one or more characters enclosed in single quotes, as in:
    const char C1 = ’X’;

    Please use the ASCII apostrophe:
    const char C1 = 'X';

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Sun, 4 Feb 2018 14:16 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Mapping int8/uint8 in absence of target language native support

  • Key: IDL43-10
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    If an implementation wishes to claim support for the "Building Block Extended Data-Types", it must support all of its complements, including the section 7.4.13.4.4 "Integers restricted to holding 8-bits of information".

    However, if the targeted programming language does not natively support int8 or uint8 then it is not obvious how the "unsupported" type may be mapped.

    For example, the Java language has a native type byte which is signed.
    The question then arises how the implementation maps the type uint8.

    The implementation could choose to

    • Maintain bit size:
      In that case, it would map uint8 to Java byte.
      The question then arises how values exceeding the positive signed maximum (127) are handled.
    • Maintain numeric range:
      In that case, it could map uint8 e.g. to Java short (16 bit quantity) or int (32 bit quantity).
      The implementation must then address the interoperability with other languages where uint8 is
      mapped to an 8 bit quantity.
    • Use yet a different mapping, for example a holder class (cf. Short, Integer, etc.)

    I therefore propose adding the requirement that the implementation shall document its mapping choice:

    If the targeted programming language does not natively support int8 or uint8 then an implementation
    shall include information about how it maps the types which lack the native language support.
    
  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Sun, 4 Feb 2018 13:56 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Incorrect rule number on

  • Key: IDL43-12
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    In section 7.4.11.4.3 page 87 and in Annex A page 132, <connector_inherit_spec> should have the rule number 182.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Thu, 8 Feb 2018 21:22 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Typo in title of 7.4.1.4.1

  • Key: IDL43-3
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    There is a stray > at the end of the title,

    7.4.1.4.1 IDL Specification>

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:22 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Typo in Annex A: Consolidated IDL Grammar

  • Key: IDL43-5
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    Page 133 last item of "From Building Block Extended Data-Types" :

    (1) <unsigned_longlong_int> ::+ “uint64”

    The rule number should be 215.

    As an aside, the quotation marks used in rules 208 to 215 are fancy Unicode characters while the rest of the grammar uses the regular ASCII code 34 decimal.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:59 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Copy/paste problem at

  • Key: IDL43-8
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    This is not an issue in the strict sense, just a usability observation.
    If I copy/paste the word <porttype_def> of rule 174, it comes out as

    >‎ yedeepyotrop <
    
  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Wed, 31 Jan 2018 06:52 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Apparently incomplete phrase

  • Key: IDL43-7
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Airbus Group ( Mr. Oliver M. Kellogg)
  • Summary:

    In section 4 "Terms and Definitions" on page 7, the last sentence is:

    > [...] Building blocks are described in
    > clause 0,

    The sentence seems to end on the comma; furthermore, I cannot find a "clause 0".

  • Reported: IDL 4.2b1 — Wed, 31 Jan 2018 01:04 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Formatting error in title of 7.4.13.4

  • Key: IDL43-2
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Dr. Gerardo Pardo-Castellote, Ph.D.)
  • Summary:

    The title of 7.4.13.4 says:

    7.4.13.4 <unsigned_longlong_int> ::+ “uint64”Explanations and Semantics

    This is a formatting error. The {{ <unsigned_longlong_int> ::+ “uint64”}} should appear before the title as one of the rules following:

    (214) <unsigned_long_int> ::+ “uint32”

    Note that this problem appears only in the generated PDF. The word document is fine.

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:10 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT

Typo in section 7.4.1.4.4.4.3 Enumerations

  • Key: IDL43-1
  • Status: open  
  • Source: Real-Time Innovations ( Dr. Gerardo Pardo-Castellote, Ph.D.)
  • Summary:

    Section 7.4.1.4.4.4.3 Enumerations says:

    An enumeration must contain at least one enumerator and no more than 232.

    The 232 is a typo. It was meant to be 2 32

  • Reported: IDL 4.2 — Fri, 8 Dec 2017 22:41 GMT
  • Updated: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:28 GMT